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john mccain about the pentagon scandal and why he wants to stop president obama's choice for secretary of state. >>> and target employees are fighting back after being told they have to open stores on thanksgiving night. >>> we begin this morning with a look at today's eye opener. your world in 90 seconds. >>> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here, until we determine what the facts are. and we will. >> the pentagon responds to a growing scandal surrounding general allen and former cia director petraeus. >>> sources tell cbs news that paul wra broadwell, alleged mistress of general petraeus, warned general allen that she was a seductress. >> allen denies any wrongdoing as investigators look through 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents. >> 30,000 pages of e-mails. there is a fine line between seduction and spamming someone. >>> president obama holds his first full news conference today since being re-elected. it is expected he will talk about the so-called fiscal cliff. >> americans want action, not political posture. >> the only thing standing
sequestration would double the $500 billion in cuts the pentagon is already planning to make over the next decade. defense secretary panetta has not minced words. >> if sequestration goes into effect it's a disaster for national defense. >> reporter: the strategy of pivoting away from the wars in iraq and afghanistan towards the pacific and an emerging chinese superpower would come undone. >> all of that can go to hell if this congress doesn't face up and deal with the issue of sequestration. >> reporter: in this letter to senators panetta warned by the time sequestration was over the u.s. would have the smallest ground force since 1940, smallest navy since 1915 and smallest air force ever. a bleak prediction which ignores the quantum leap in weapons technology. as the president pointed out in the debate no other country comes close. >> we spend more on our military than the next ten countries combined. >> reporter: sequestration would not change that. according to the center for budget assessment it's not the size of the cuts about $50 billion a year that's damaging but the fact that they
a little depressing here, but the report is from senator tom coburn. he's taking aim at wasteful pentagon spending. he says the department of defense has become the department of everything. take a look at some of the programs he found the pentagon had paid for in recent years including a symposium in which they discussed the topic "did jesus die for klingons too" on the implications for christi christianity if exterstrials were discovered. they also a studied slang on twitter. dod overhead is larger than the gdp of israel and the uae. he recommends $67.9 billion in savings in ten years are cut out of the pentagon budget by going afr some of the things he lists here. so a lot of wasteful spending here being highlighted over at the pentagon by a republican which is interesting. >> all right. eamon, thanks very much. maria. >> thank you so much. as you just heard, billions of dollars being wasted just in the defense department alone. yet, it is the tax revenue side of the fiscal fight that's getting all the attention, bill. >> it's always a time to put spending cuts front and center in this
of defense of really becoming the department of everything. he says the pentagon's wasting a lot of money and he's found examples in the pentagon spending money on things like a study for a question of did jesus die for cling-ones, too. they've sponsored a discussion series in which they talk about the implications for christianity of the discovery of extraterrestrial life. they also financed studies of a new type of beef jerky that's flat, kind of like a fruit roll-up instead of round like a slim jim. all sorts of other details in this report. but in all seriousness, what coburn has done here is sort of laid out the pentagon's overhead budget just the overhead next to the gdp of several major nations. take a look at where the pentagon's overhead ranks. if you ranked it pass a country, it is just below portugal there and just above the country of israel if you look at dod overhead as a separate country. then coburn has some recommendations here for key areas to make savings, including canceling non-military research and development like that cling-on conference. phasing out dod schools th
at the pentagon for us. good morning. tell us, what is the status of the investigation right now? >> well, good morning, alina. "the new york times" is now reporting this morning that the investigation actually began some months ago. but, again, the questions continue to mount. it wasn't until election night that the director of national intelligence, james clapper, was informed that this was all going on. the white house informed the next day,and the president the day after that. so how you have an fbi investigation, which whatever went on did involve looking into the matters of general david petraeus, your cia director, and the president isn't informed. this is one of the key questions congress, the congressional committee's concerned, they weren't informed. so expect to see a lot more about this for the next many days. >> barbara, let's talk a little bit more about that. as you mentioned the white house wasn't notified until 5:00 p.m. on election night. the president wasn't told until the thursday after election day. house and senate intelligence committees weren't told until last week. i kn
story live at the pentagon for us this evening. jennifer, the fbi interviews the mistress for what i'm told is the second time earlier this month. and determined nobody committed any crimes here. >> right, but there are still some questions, shep, especially about why paula broadwell mentioned at that october 26th speech that she gave in denver, colorado, in which she told the audience that one of the motivations of the benghazi attacks may have been that the cia was holding libya militia men prisoner. the question did she learn that from general petraeus, because sources confirmed to fox that the report may be true. the prisoners are being looked at as a motivating factor for those attackers at the consulate and annex. >> shepard: jennifer, jen petraeus is also now talking about some emails sent anonymously said to be by his mistress to another woman. >> well, this is what really started this whole investigation by the fbi. there were emails, anonymous emails that were sent. they were harassing emails to a friend of the petraeus family, jill kelly. she has been -- she and her husban
was named after lisa dolan's husband, navy captain bob dolan, who died in the pentagon on 9/11. on the today show, lisa met puppy, dolan, for the first time >> hello, baby. >> reporter: 18 months later, dolan is all grown up. and with his handler, now ready to graduate from the tsa's bomb detection academy. >> good, good, over here. >> reporter: a big day for which lisa and daughter, rebecca, have driven all the way to san antonio. >> hello, baby, do you remember me? >> reporter: so what is it like to see him all grown up? >> it is just wonderful, wonderful. i know now that he is going to go out there and he is going to work. >> reporter: sniffing for bombs is a big game for the tsa dogs, but almost half the puppies in the program wash out. not dolan, now he is leaving the training terminal here in texas and headed for a new assignment in maui, and heading there with two of his classmates. handler frank diangelo is going with him. >> every time i hear the name, dolan, i think of you. >> reporter: for her dad, who was a technician, it all came full circle. >> i am really proud when i tell peo
. >> reporter: it turns out a pentagon investigation later concluded by mid 2009 there was no tactical or strategic value to the outpost the by then so many paid the ultimate price, including lieutenant ben keating, a gung ho former president of young republicans and son of baptist ministers. killed in november 2006. >> and you have to think to yourself all the stories that do get out there, how many thousands don't. you know, who sacrificed like those guys and their families have. >> you mentioned jake tapper on kimmel, right? >> yes. he's going to be on the "view." and last night. on kimmel. and the book comes out today. a very important and inspiring stories about the guys. >> great perspective to tell the stories. >> more from abc coming up next. stories. @ >>> this morning on "world news now" -- breaking developments in the widening scandal that's already claimed the career of former cia director david petraeus. >> the top u.s. commander in afghanistan is now being investigated in connection with this growing controversy. it's tuesday, november 13th. >> announcer: from abc news, t
. cnn's barbara starr is following that story from the pentagon. good morning. >> good morning, soledad. well, look, at least at this point, there's no indication publicly of a national security breach. but that doesn't mean the questions aren't growing. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are questioning the timing behind the revelation. house majority leader eric cantor said an fbi employee told him in october about the petraeus affair. by that time an fbi investigation was already under way. the fbi told the director of national intelligence james clapper on election night, according to a senior u.s. intelligence official. the white house says it was notified the day after the election, and the president the following day. that doesn't make sense to house homeland security chairman peter king. >> this seems to have been going on for several months yet now it appears they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. >> "the new york times" reports the fbi actually started its investigation late this summer. the h
and that is the top commander in afghanistan, general john allen. turns out the pentagon is now investigating him as well for sending inappropriate e-mails to jill kelly. now, if you remember from yesterday, kelly is the same woman who sparked this whole investigation because petraeus' mistress paula broadwell was sending her e-mails. allen is saying he did nothing wrong and is maintaining his current position within the military. now, many are wondering why the fbi would get involved if this is nothing more than an affair. but we're now hearing fears of potential security leaks. in a speech at the university of denver broadwell suggested the libya attack was targeting a secret prison at the benghazi consulate. federal agents have been searching broadwell's home. late last night and into early this morning. not only did she have thousands of e-mails between her and petraeus detailing the affair. she also had classified material on her computer. as of yet the fbi doesn't believe that came from petraeus but it is illegal. more bill
skess about him and the pentagon investigation and alleged behavior does the president have faith that general allen can continue to lead the war in afghanistan. he's under investigation by the pentagon. >> can i tell you that the president thinks very highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. at the request of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold general allen's notion as supreme allied commander europe, pending the investigation of his conduct by the department of defense i.d. the president remains focused on fully supporting our extraordinary troops and coalition partners in afghanistan who general allen continues to lead as he has done so ably for over a year. meanwhile, the president has nominated general dunford to be the next commander and reiterates his belief that the senate should act swiftly to confirm him, his hearings are this week. >> is it accurate to say the president has full faith in general allen? >> he believes he's doing and done an excellent job at isaf and i refer you to the pent
on that night. general joseph dunford is stepping down at the marine corps's second in command. the pentagon calls both moves routine successions. also the navy has replaced charles gauuette due to recent allegations of, quote, inappropriate leadership judgment not otherwise described. there's been some tension between the state department, the cia and the pentagon in recent weeks as they've worked in the words of one official to sync up their benghazi time lines. thursday the closed door hearing intelligence officials will show senators benghazi's surveillance video with a timeline for the first time. >> sharyl, thanks. retired general richard myers is cbs news' military security analyst and former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> general myers, general petraeus served under you. you know this man well. should he have resigned? is this the kind of thing that a military man should resign who is no longer serving the military, but at the cia? >> certainly if he were still in the military, yes, he should have resigned. i think anybody in charge
appears to have also ensnared his successor in afghanistan. the pentagon has now launched an investigation into, quote, potentially inappropriate e-mails between general allen and jill kelley, the petraeus family friend at the center of this increasingly strange scandal. the fbi has turned over 20,000 to 30,000 pages of documents found during the probe. many are e-mails between allen and kelley sent over the last two years. it was kelley, petraeus' former deputy in tampa, who went to the fbi about threatening e-mails she was receiving. they were eventually traced back to petraeus' biographer, paula broadwell, spurring the investigation that led to the cia director's resignation. meantime, overnight, nearly a dozen federal agents descended on paula broadwell's home. spending 4 1/2 hours going floor to floor, leaving with a desktop computer, cardboard boxes and a briefcase. authorities say broadwell consented to the search. just a few hours earlier "washington post" reporter vernon loeb who spent 16 months working side-by-side with broadwell on her biography of petraeus, told the newspaper's
and top afghanistan commander john allen. the pentagon is now investigating general allen for allegedly sending thousands of inappropriate e-mails to kelley but allen is saying he did nothing wrong and the president and the army are standing by him. >> the president thinks very highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. >> i believe john allen until somebody proves otherwise i believe that he did nothing inappropriate. >> that was white house spokesman jay carney and former army vice chief of staff peter tee ellie. jill kelley also received threatening letters from paula broadwell. now a 911 call is coming to light of kelley telling dispatchers saying she needed diplomatic protection. as the scandal widens, broadwell is holing herself up in the home of her brother near rock creek park. a jogger found broadwell's lost driver's license in the park and turned into the police. more bill is right after the break. stay with us. we have a big, big hour
will help direct you through there. 395 at the pentagon. traffic flowing freely continuing out towards the 14th street bridge. traffic flowing freely there and 50 headed past eastern, all lanes are open. that's a check of your fox 5 on time traffic. >> bomb shell dropped in the political world over the weekend. ci ah, director david patraeus resigns. raises a lot of questions and stands the impact of major foreign policy issues facing the obama administration. what happens in the deadly attack in libya. joining us this morning deputy white house editor for politico. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. >> whenever we see stories like this come out, scandal really, those details leak out. what do we know? >> he was having an affair. the woman involved was his buyographer and appears to been prompted into threatening e-mails he stoent another woman who was working down in florida and that there was some level of threat that she had given that had been so great the fbi started investigating her e-mail and in investigating her e-mail found all of these messages back and forth th
this woman jill kelley. he did get backing from the pentagon. >> no one should lead to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job in leading the forces. he has my continued confidence. >> one prominent conservative is questioning the conduct of the fbi in both of these cases. >> let me begin with general allen who i think has been smeared by an fbi investigation that got out of control. the allenes knew the kellies in tampa for a couple of years. more than half of the e-mails involved mrs. allen or mrs. kelly they are dealing with various arrangements. >> there are some who see this as a big distraction from a much larger issue that's the congressional investigation into what happened in the u.s. consulate in benghazi last september. the new acting director of the cia briefed some law americas although some want to hear from p petraeus himself. they may be pressed to further explain what his administration knew and when. >> finally there's the approaching fiscal cliff. the tax hikes go into effect at the end of the year unless they can get together and break bred and come
assault or unprofessional relationships. the recommendations were made today at the pentagon. >>> one of the country's most powerful politicians is staying put. nancy pelosi says she'll continue her role as house minority leader. >> it isn't about the gavel although we like to have it. it's about the unity we share, it's about the important work we can do and it's about thinking a little longer term, a little longer term of the path our country is on and where we would go. >> the 72-year-old pelosi made the big announcement this morning in washington. you can see she was flanked by democratic women in the house. the house democrats are united in leading the country longterm. >>> president obama defending his ambassador on the comments she made about benghazi. >> the first news conference since being re-elected, president obama touched on the fiscal cliff and global warming and petraeus scandal. john mccain and lindsay graham accused rice of misleading the american people about the u.s. consulate attack in libya that killed four american diplomats and demanding a watergate style hearin
, if that wasn't enough, there's that poison pill, too. mandatory cuts. $55 billion at the pentagon. another $55 billion in domestic programs. everything from the education department to the parks service. altogether, this is $500 billion, which some say could send the country back into recession. for abc's "this week," martha raddatz asked the house democratic leader if there's room for compromise on that issue. >> could you accept a deal that does not include tax increases for the wealthy? >> no. the president has been very clear that the higher-income people have to pay their fair share. >> reporter: while wall street liked the constructive talks, main street businesses want a deal. they can't plan, hire or increase production without knowing what taxes they'll be paying next year. the president is off to a four-day trip to asia. talks will continue. there's some predictions that something could be worked out before christmas. that may not be the big deal. but at least the framework that pushes a lot of this over into next year. >> that would be a great christmas gift. david, thank you. >>> b
an audience right now. if you're planning to head northbound on 395 pentagon to the 14th street bridge, you're okay. now we'll take a live look or actually to a map again. bw parkway route 50 through cheverly looks great. no problems in the northeast corridor. one more live look outside. this time we'll head over to the beltway at the american legion bridge. no issues to report here. i'll be back at 6:00. back to you guys. >> thank you, monika. >>> making news at 5:49, syrian activists say antigovernment groups have reached a preliminary deal to form a new opposition leadership. opposition factions have been meeting. the u.s. and other countries have been pressuring the group opposing syrian president bashar al-assad to present a united front. >>> early this morning greek lawmakers passed their 2013 budget as thousands protested outside the parliament building. the budget includes deep spending cuts and tax hikes. the euro zone countries are meeting today to discuss additional loans to keep greece if going bankrupt. >>> president obama is inviting labor and business leaders to the white hou
-third of that, and maybe 300 or so. we have a large number of them in the pentagon and a lot of them are spending time writing plans and defending plans with congress and trying to get the money, because that is a full-time exercise. i think that we can do that with k colonels or somebody like me for example. >> and maybe call you back because of the surge shggestion. and now, secretary gates is upset about this treatment of the four-star generals. there is something about a sense of entitlement and great power that skews people's judgment, and that what gates was saying about the dynamic or the power bubble around four-star generals, and do you buy that? >> i do. it is not just in the military establishment, but it is true in business, and it is true everywhere. when you bring people, when they come up through the ranks, they sometimes forget where they were and it is very, very easy to justify in your own mind an exs excessive number and style of perk, because you have a great deal of responsibility. the fact of the matter is that people do forget and i don't think it is necessary.
at the pentagon. when exactly will petraeus meet with the lawmakers and do we know where? >> it's a good question. first of all, as you mentioned, they are going to be having house and senate intel committee hearings today. mike morell, the acting director of the c.i.a., will be speaking to lawmakers during those hearings. david petraeus will not be attending those hearings today. we understand that he will be on capitol hill tomorrow before the house select intelligence committee. that's mike rogers, congressman mike rogers' committee, at 7:30 tomorrow morning. on friday, david petraeus is scheduled to appear before that committee. we understand he will not be addressing the f.b.i. investigation that led to his affair, but that he will be talking about benghazi exclusively and what happened there. meanwhile, the f.b.i. is still investigating how paula broadwell, his mistress, ended up with so many classified documents at her home in north carolina. agents, f.b.i. agents returned to her home on monday night. but as of now, have not found that petraeus was involved in any sort of national security
a report out what's called waistful pentagon spending. he said the department of defense has become the department of everything. he's particularly interested in darpa research spending. take a look at what he found. he focuses on a couple of particular studies including a study on cling ones. darpa paid $100,000 to sponsor a discussion series. one topic was implications for christianity if extra terrestrials are discovered. another one that co burn found was pentagon spending on better beef jerky. the foreign comparative testing program spent $1.5 million developing jerky that features flavors including salami, chipotle and turkey. this beef jerky is shaped like a fruit rollup. they also studied the politics of goldfish. darpa paid $5.2 million for a study that included goldfish. the study analyzed group behavior in goldfish and it suggested implications for human political behavior based on the way the goldfish were swimming. sarl, senator coburn said you can take $67.9 billion a year out of the pentagon budget very easily by going after a raft of programs like this. >> eamon you
petraeus, and now general john allen being investigated for sending what the pentagon said were potentially inappropriate messages. putting on hold his likely pro promotion to become the supreme allied commander in europe. >> of course it weighs on him. as much as it weighs on dave petraeus. i believe that dave is very, very sad for what he has admitted he did. >> reporter: at the center of this web, jill kelley, the tampa socialite and honorary military ambassador, living near the centcom headquarters, where petraeus and allen were once based. officials say the was early this summer that kelley received anonymous e-mails accusing her of flaunting her friendly relationships with top military brass. the fbi traced those e-mails become to paula broadwell's computer where they discovered the evidence of broadwell's affair with david petraeus. but it doesn't stop there. abc news has learned that general allen also received an anonymous e-mail traced to paula broadwell painting jill kelley as a seductress. a further look by the fbi into kelley's e-mails revealed hundreds between kelley and gener
to bring his pentagon into this particular new cycle but "don't ask don't tell" its historic. "don't ask don't tell" was passed but we still have to remember that our men and women who fight and die for this country, they still don't have equal benefits. there's still a long ways to go in this country as it relates to equal benefits and issues of i.d. cards and base housing in partnership benefits and a whole host of things. its important progress that we still need to make as well as transgender service, something that is not even right now discussion but it's something that's important and needs to be addressed. you know i say that because all these things we talk about, we talk about the politics and the numbers in the victories and not so many losses. but at at the end of the day there are real-life people. it's not often that we pass a law that there are real-life people who are immediately impacted and feel that. but right now in this country, the vast majority of people live in places where they are treated as second-class citizens in a young person growing up in america today, if
. overnight a spokesperson for leon panetta said general allen told pentagon officials he had done nothing wrong. >> the secretary directed that the matter be referred to the inspector general of the department of defense for investigation. it's now in the hands of the department of the investigate general. >> general allen is in washington right now. he was supposed to hear at a confirmation hearing to be the commander of american forces in europe. but that meeting is now on hold. >>> 7:07. today at the white house, president obama meets with labor leaders to discuss ways to avoid the fiscal cliff. coming up at 7:5, the president's vatgy on getting -- the president's strategy on getting this fixed. >>> sal, you've had your hands full this morning. >> yeah, things are finally beginning to settle a lot bit, dave and tori. yeah, we had a couple of early problems that made the commute rough. it has not been all that bad when it comes crashes. we've had a few -- comes to crashes. we've had a few. at the bay bridge toll plaza, it's backed up for about a 10 to 15-minute wait. it's not quite as c
of exchanging potentially inappropriate e-mails with tampa socialite jill kelley. but after the pentagon's dramatic announcement about allen earlier this week, overnight, the defense secretary seemed to be backing off. >> no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job at isaf. he certainly has my continued confidence. >> reporter: an echo of what the white house said tuesday. >> i can tell you that the president thinks very highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he's done in afghanistan. >> reporter: officials tell abc news, that the vast number of e-mails allen exchanged with jill kelley, who sparked the fbi investigation into broadwell and petraeus, show no evidence of any sexual relations. but are friendly and, perhaps, a bit flirtatious. in one note, kelly telling allen she saw him on tv. he responds, thanks, dear. you're a sweetheart. meanwhile, david petraeus' sudden departure as cia director has created lots of questions on capitol hill. especially that looming issue, the take in benghazi on a cia facility th
department, the cia and the pentagon in recent weeks as they work in the words of one official to sync up their bengazhi timeline. thursday the closed door hearing intelligence officials will show a benghazi timeline. >> senior correspondent john miller former assistant director of national against is with us along with retired general richard myers. he's a former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. good morning. general myers, general petraeus served under you, you know this man well. should he have resigned? is this the kind of thing that a military man should resign who is no longer serving the military but at cia. >> if you were in the military yes he should have resign. anybody that's in charge of our secrets like general petraeus was, there are a lot of folks under him that take polygraphs that try to get at are you having affairs, are you vulnerable to outside forces that could force to you leak classified information. he heads the biggest intelligence agency we have in that regard, at least the most sensitive intelligence and i think it's perfectly roper he resign. >> your surp
this morning totally distracted by this petraeus scandal which is affecting the pentagon and the military so everybody's got sort of one eyeball on the fiscal cliff and one eyeball on this epic scandal that's breaking out over at the pentagon. >> did "the washington post" steal this "in the line of booty"? >> i didn't see that in "the post" this morning, that seems like a "daily news" classic. >> it has elmo, but "sister act." it's a whole separate issue. >> the question with this sex scandal that's going on right now is who is this woman jill kelley. she had some weird relationship with general petraeus, whether it was physical or not. she had a twin, she was the tampa socialite apparently threatening to paula broadwell who was petraeus' mistress. >> identical twin? >> apparently yes. if you see pictures of them side by side they appear to be identical twins. >> that's a whole new level if you got twins involved you got to admit that andrew, right? >> this scandal has every possible element. >> twins, the whole, you know what i'm saying. >> yes, that is true. but one other piece of this. wh
the control act that had to take place. we needed a set of reductions over the next 10 years. the pentagon came forward and said it will require x% of reductions across the board. the president said we will go about this by saying, what are the key strategic challenges we have? we need to set up to do as well. we had a number of discussions of the president led -- he came back with among the top priorities, the rebalancing of asia. insuring that the defense budget and the allocation of our at -- the allocation of our assets supported that. we're going to continue to allocate resources to maintain a strong and flexible regional presence. adding both additional presence and capabilities. we will continue to build up guam, establish a marine air, ground task forces. rotate for combat ships. investing capabilities appropriate for aggression and reassuring allies and partners. there is a full discussion of this -- i draw your attention to it. for those of you who are interested, i really would recommend that space to you. but 2020 we will position 60% of our fleet and the pacific. we will devel
to the white house to cia headquarters to the pentagon, the probe of former cia director david petraeus keeps on growing. petraeus resigned after admitting an affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. jill kelley who was a friend of the petraeus family said broadwell sent her threatening e-mails. then kelli asked a front to look into the e-mails. then it was revealed he sent her shirtless photos of himself. it sounds like a horrible movie, but it's all true. carol is a reporter at the washington post. thank you very much for joining us. >> happy to be here, gary. >> what do you know about agent fred rhumphries and why was he o motivated to investigate those e-mails. something like that should not and would not rise to an fbi probe? >> it's a great question, and what we found out was the way he was being described was really inaccurate. people had initially reported and republican leaders had described him as a whistleblower who came forward, complaining to cantor, house majority leader cantor's office because he was worried the fbi investigation that uncovered an affair by the cia director
of the pentagon. don't ask don't tell is historic. it was passed and that had full lot that is removed from our books. we have to remember that our men and women who fought and died to this country do not have equal benefits. there is a long way to go as it relates to the full benefits -- id cards, etc. there is a whole host of things so we need to make. as well as transgendered service. that is not a discussion. it is something that is important and needs to be addressed. all of these things we talk about -- there are real life people. it is not often you can pass a law that there are real life people that are immediately impacted and feel it. in this country, the vast majority of people live in places where they are treated as second-class innocence. a young person growing up in america -- look at the three places where people spend most of their time -- home, school, and church. they are rejected in all three. encourage people that they can grow up with the same dreams as their peers. these false and demonstrated actions and successes matter to real-life people. it is felt in this country. i
-tightening mode, it's important to keep in mind it's not just the pentagon that has not done things very cost effectively. i'm a big fan of the recent health care reform, but it was, you know, one of its strong points was not cost containment. and in addition, the cost containment measures that were there were not viewed as credible. and so that was a political decision, and partly it was a function of how it was done. and, you know, again i'm being cynical. i say the republicans, it's not so much that -- you know, republicans are not a monolith although they're closer than democrats, but some republicans genuinely don't want to increase taxes on the middle class and don't want a double dip recession. but the way that the party, the revealed preferences of the party in recent years has been they're much more concerned about the wealthy, you know, tan they are about these things -- than they are about these things. the democrats, so we are told now, i mean, it's a bargaining position. you know, the president has gone all out saying one thing they really want out of this is tax increases, you k
think all of the forces in the pentagon and the white house and probably the state department believed that saddam hussein had been so fatally weakened in 1991 that he could never survive. as it turned out in fact that the essential forces of the republican guard and of his command and control structure had survived and as we saw with the slaughter of the shi'ites very shortly thereafter he was able to maintain his repressive regime. the question you directly asked me, should we have gone into baghdad? that would have been hard to do. that wasn't what the coalition had been formed to do. i doesn't -- he said dafle, say in the book we should have gone into baghdad. but i think the situation was badly misread and clearly it would have been better for the world, i think, had saddam hussein been sufficiently weakened so that his regime could have been toppled from within if only that. >> let me ask you about the war in iraq. as someone who asks others about this in your job -- >> this war now. >> this war now, and it's entirely up to you, do you feel strongly about the war one way or the o
the pentagon. what is your view about whether this country should be prepared to go beyond the $487 billion that the president initially targeted? >> i do think there are additional savings to remain in defense spending. it is important to be clear that those reductions were reductions from projected increases. it lot -- it was not a reduction from the baseline. if you go off the fiscal cliff, it is not another $500 billion. that was part of the simpson- bowles framework. the sequester is an irresponsible way to do with cuts whether it is defense or non-defense. in terms of the magnitude of defense savings, five of hundred dollar billion cuts for 10 years is excessive. there are additional savings to be made in defense. senator levin has said another heaven -- hundred dollars billion. the key is to -- we should not have the budget decisions driving these decisions exclusively. -and not be the main component. what is our military strategy? we are doing lots of things in military that are still looking toward the cold war strategy. we need to focus on what our strategy is for this century and
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